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The following proposal has been discussed and is now marked as resolved. The page has been protected and now serves as an archive. Do not edit this page.
Date Resolved: July 19, 2014


Result: Stub length is established at 1,000 bytes.


Introduction

Now that the stub length discussion has ended, there is still not a consensus. I have eliminated the unpopular choices, the ones with a negative rating:

  • (-1) Less than 300 bytes
  • (-4) Less than 1,500 bytes
  • (-4) Less than 2,000 bytes
  • (-3) Less than 2,500 bytes
  • (-4) Less than 3,000 bytes
  • (-3) Less than 3,500 bytes
  • (-3) Less than 4,000 bytes
Additional policies
  • Accepted: "Any article that is later defined as a stub but also is an article in which all information is complete, is no longer considered a stub, no matter the length. Example: If a stub is considered less than 2,000 bytes, and a certain article is 1,700 bytes, yet it is almost impossible to add any more information, the article can no longer be considered a stub."


Proposal

You can support/oppose/neutral to more than one. Under the additional policies section, if you have any ideas, add them there. We need to come to an agreement as to the best size to which we consider a stub.

This discussion will end on Friday, July 18, 2014 at 9 a.m., eastern time. AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 12:17, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion

Less than 500 bytes (Rating: 0)

  • Neutral Neutral - I am okay with this amount, although I would prefer 300 bytes, but that has been eliminated. AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 12:18, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Support Support - What Andrew said. I still would have preferred 300 bytes. 70px-Killicon_grenade_launcher.pngJosephHawk 📪  13:25, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral leaning Support - This amount is okay, but I prefer 1,000 bytes  Nicko756 (MCE) Sign!Dp  05:16, July 18, 2014 (UTC) 
  • Neutral Neutral leaning Support - This is fine too but could be reached by adding a few pictures. WolfWink_L.gif Auron May the odds be ever in your favor! Ammy.gif   02:38,8/23/2015 
  • Support Support - --Spongebob456 talk 15:23, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

Less than 1,000 bytes (Rating: 5)

  • Support Support - this is a good amount, and it looks like most of the community is leaning toward this one. AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 12:18, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - I still believe 500 bytes is better. 70px-Killicon_grenade_launcher.pngJosephHawk 📪  13:25, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Support Support - per AMK.  Nicko756 (MCE) Sign!Dp  05:16, July 18, 2014 (UTC) 
  • Support Support - Looks perfect to me. WolfWink_L.gif Auron May the odds be ever in your favor! Ammy.gif   02:38,8/23/2015 
  • Support Support - --Spongebob456 talk 15:23, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

Additional policies

If you have a different idea on how to define a stub or have an idea for additional policies, please list it in this section.

Length of the Infobox (Rating: 0)

  • Note: This would only apply to pages with an infobox. - 120d
  • Oppose Oppose - it's an extra few steps just to figure out the size of an infobox. AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 12:19, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - Per AMK. 
  • Oppose Oppose - per AMK.  Nicko756 (MCE) Sign!Dp  05:16, July 18, 2014 (UTC) 
  • Oppose Oppose - To many extra steps. WolfWink_L.gif Auron May the odds be ever in your favor! Ammy.gif   02:38,8/23/2015 
  • Neutral Neutral - perhaps the infobox still needs to be taken into account? --Spongebob456 talk 15:23, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

Bytes excluding the infobox (Rating: 0)

  • When determining if an article is a stub, the infobox does not count toward the total number of bytes. - Nicko756
  • Oppose Oppose - it's an extra few steps just to figure out the size of an infobox. AMK152 (Wall • Contrib) 12:19, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - Per AMK. 70px-Killicon_grenade_launcher.pngJosephHawk 📪  13:25, July 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - I agree that this would take a few extra steps.
     Nicko756 (MCE) Sign!Dp  05:16, July 18, 2014 (UTC) 
  • Oppose Oppose - To confusing. WolfWink_L.gif Auron May the odds be ever in your favor! Ammy.gif   02:38,8/23/2015 
  • Neutral Neutral - perhaps the infobox still needs to be taken into account? --Spongebob456 talk 15:23, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

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